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MacFly123
Apr 13, 06:30 PM
"However, this does not mean these other applications are dead - simply that Apple is not talking about them... yet."
So maybe this explains the low price point. $299 for Final Cut Pro X and $999 for the full suite? I hope not. All looks amazing though!
Dude, this software is simply INCREDIBLE!!! It is worth so much more than $999.00 it is not even funny! If they sell each separate for $299 or $999 for the whole suite then that is an awesome deal with more options for individual purchase than before. I CAN'T WAIT to see the rest of the suite especially the new Motion with Shake baked in :) I was a bit nervous that the other apps were dead so this is GREAT news!
I also think this is the end of Final Cut Express. It makes perfect sense. iMovie = Free, Final Cut Pro X = $299, or if you are a pro you will get the whole suite for the same $999 price as before. Simple and better deals all around for everyone!
So maybe this explains the low price point. $299 for Final Cut Pro X and $999 for the full suite? I hope not. All looks amazing though!
Dude, this software is simply INCREDIBLE!!! It is worth so much more than $999.00 it is not even funny! If they sell each separate for $299 or $999 for the whole suite then that is an awesome deal with more options for individual purchase than before. I CAN'T WAIT to see the rest of the suite especially the new Motion with Shake baked in :) I was a bit nervous that the other apps were dead so this is GREAT news!
I also think this is the end of Final Cut Express. It makes perfect sense. iMovie = Free, Final Cut Pro X = $299, or if you are a pro you will get the whole suite for the same $999 price as before. Simple and better deals all around for everyone!
kareraisu
Oct 22, 09:25 PM
There is one thing in your setup which breaks my heart......
what's that??
what's that??
Nipsy
Oct 13, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by e-coli
Nipsy, while I know you are simply trying to defend your viewpoint (as we all should), you have a very simplistic view of a computers role in society. This is a tragic flaw with all Mac users. Running a piece of software in "emulation" is a poor example of compatibility. It's like having to buy an external drive for your portable computer. It's cumbersome, hardly ideal, and defeats the purpose.
Admittedly, running in emulation is slow and cumbersome, but the simple fact is that we can, and PC users can't. Just one of those things to counter the 'Windows can do so much more' argument.
I don't believe that argument, but hey, my Mac can run Windows (acceptably), so it is not a point of contention any more.
For most tasks, we have native software, but for the very rare occasion when something can not be done natively, it can still be done.
The problem with Apple simple. They have no enterprise strategy. They have no muscle to get developers to begin including Macs in custom software solutions, database integration, and web-services compatibility. Apple is totally missing the point, and doesn't understand the place of the computer in business and (this is the sad one) education.
Ummmm....developers? Developers are flocking to OSX, because it gives a good UNIX environment, with a good user experience. I see more geeks at more non-Mac conventions with iBooks and TiBooks every time I go.
Databases...you haven't been paying attention! Sybase, Oracle 9i, MySQL, PostGreSQL, which db were you looking for?
http://developer.apple.com/server/
Web services...my machine is running Tomcat, apache, php/mysql, and Webobjects servers. ASP is available for UNIX, which means an apache module could prolly be compiled for Mac. Which services did you want? .net? passport?
Businesses...businesses are slow to change, but I have seen increased interest in Apple (since OSX) for the first time in a decade.
So, Apple has the Xserve, right? Huge dismal failure for them. They are giving hardware to Universities, but they're not leveraging their weight to get software and datablase companies on board to write enterprise-wide server-based applications. A good example: some universities are in the process of migrating all their research to secure server farms, and interconnecting them nationwide to increase the pool of information available to researchers. This means that different applications, different file types, and different methods of gathering that information (such as a custom-written piece of software that, say, reads indentity cards or thumb-print records) need to become recognizeable, retrieveable, and editable from any location. Or what if libraries wanted to interconnect, trade data, and allow data to be submitted by individual users (such as a publication written by an independent party).
Xserve adoption will be slow, and the product needs to be excellent to gain share. Thankfully, I, and many many reviewers, think it is.
However, your argument about data migration is silly, as data is accessed through a pipe (odbc, jdbc, etc.) and Mac OSX has a nice set of pipes. You can put a GUI on a pipe and call it an app, but all it does it form a query which gets fed to a stored proc and echo the data.
It can be done now via the command line, which means easily via an app. With data, the 'server based app' is a collection of stored procs, and the client (a browser, Sherlock, a custom client, etc.) makes it pretty.
Furthermore, the developers I mention above, are making sure we get many good browsers, and the browser will be the path to data (hell, it already is).
These are great examples of how the world is becoming more interdependent, and the personal computer is becoming merely a gateway to more information, applications and services.
Affirms my point above...
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Nipsy, while I know you are simply trying to defend your viewpoint (as we all should), you have a very simplistic view of a computers role in society. This is a tragic flaw with all Mac users. Running a piece of software in "emulation" is a poor example of compatibility. It's like having to buy an external drive for your portable computer. It's cumbersome, hardly ideal, and defeats the purpose.
Admittedly, running in emulation is slow and cumbersome, but the simple fact is that we can, and PC users can't. Just one of those things to counter the 'Windows can do so much more' argument.
I don't believe that argument, but hey, my Mac can run Windows (acceptably), so it is not a point of contention any more.
For most tasks, we have native software, but for the very rare occasion when something can not be done natively, it can still be done.
The problem with Apple simple. They have no enterprise strategy. They have no muscle to get developers to begin including Macs in custom software solutions, database integration, and web-services compatibility. Apple is totally missing the point, and doesn't understand the place of the computer in business and (this is the sad one) education.
Ummmm....developers? Developers are flocking to OSX, because it gives a good UNIX environment, with a good user experience. I see more geeks at more non-Mac conventions with iBooks and TiBooks every time I go.
Databases...you haven't been paying attention! Sybase, Oracle 9i, MySQL, PostGreSQL, which db were you looking for?
http://developer.apple.com/server/
Web services...my machine is running Tomcat, apache, php/mysql, and Webobjects servers. ASP is available for UNIX, which means an apache module could prolly be compiled for Mac. Which services did you want? .net? passport?
Businesses...businesses are slow to change, but I have seen increased interest in Apple (since OSX) for the first time in a decade.
So, Apple has the Xserve, right? Huge dismal failure for them. They are giving hardware to Universities, but they're not leveraging their weight to get software and datablase companies on board to write enterprise-wide server-based applications. A good example: some universities are in the process of migrating all their research to secure server farms, and interconnecting them nationwide to increase the pool of information available to researchers. This means that different applications, different file types, and different methods of gathering that information (such as a custom-written piece of software that, say, reads indentity cards or thumb-print records) need to become recognizeable, retrieveable, and editable from any location. Or what if libraries wanted to interconnect, trade data, and allow data to be submitted by individual users (such as a publication written by an independent party).
Xserve adoption will be slow, and the product needs to be excellent to gain share. Thankfully, I, and many many reviewers, think it is.
However, your argument about data migration is silly, as data is accessed through a pipe (odbc, jdbc, etc.) and Mac OSX has a nice set of pipes. You can put a GUI on a pipe and call it an app, but all it does it form a query which gets fed to a stored proc and echo the data.
It can be done now via the command line, which means easily via an app. With data, the 'server based app' is a collection of stored procs, and the client (a browser, Sherlock, a custom client, etc.) makes it pretty.
Furthermore, the developers I mention above, are making sure we get many good browsers, and the browser will be the path to data (hell, it already is).
These are great examples of how the world is becoming more interdependent, and the personal computer is becoming merely a gateway to more information, applications and services.
Affirms my point above...
maclaptop
May 5, 06:55 PM
So...are you on VZW? Do you actually have a care in this matter, or is it just another way to rant on others?
AT&T still has people on $30 unlimited because they are grandfathered in. So will VZW, if they actually change the plans.
I read my Verizon TOS. Then I called since I am considering adding a line. Unfortunately they don't grandfather their plans. However after I spoke with a supervisor, I understand how they have their data only, structured. It's very smart of them, designed to make money for Verizon, without adding complications for the customer.
In the ten years I've been with them about the only drawback is they do tend to be the most expensive. But you get what you pay for. So now I'm clear that unlimited is month to month and can be eliminated at any time. I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
AT&T still has people on $30 unlimited because they are grandfathered in. So will VZW, if they actually change the plans.
I read my Verizon TOS. Then I called since I am considering adding a line. Unfortunately they don't grandfather their plans. However after I spoke with a supervisor, I understand how they have their data only, structured. It's very smart of them, designed to make money for Verizon, without adding complications for the customer.
In the ten years I've been with them about the only drawback is they do tend to be the most expensive. But you get what you pay for. So now I'm clear that unlimited is month to month and can be eliminated at any time. I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
satcomer
May 4, 11:26 PM
Next big thing, Smell-O-Vision (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). :p
Michaelgtrusa
Apr 12, 12:55 PM
Same discussion all the time.
People that suggest to build plants in the US aren't doing their homework.
Made in USA doesn't mean the quality is better or worse, neither does it mean that Americans would be getting jobs because of it.
Some percentage, but not all!
Quality depends on the manufacturers controls.
Mercedes, Toyota etc. are all building quality products in the US.
There are not even enough workers with low assembly qualifications, so for a plant of that size the jobs would mostly go to immigrants, NOT Americans.
Then there is money a resource that is like a rare element gas. The slightest sign of trouble and it disappears and goes where there is no trouble.
Brazil will make no trouble, neither do other countries.
The government here is too fragmented in it's opinions to unite and pass laws that make production in the US worthwhile.
For that matter none of them have economic backgrounds and just preside over status quo, Republican or Liberal.
About 95% of all the tax money coming in is spent before it even hits and then some.
As the president's friend (an accountant) said in the movie DAVE:
If I would keep my books like they (the government) do , they'd throw me in jail.
It's an international world, intertwined by money.
So, enough with this buy American or MADE IN USA stuff. It's all about money and that will be made wherever it's FREE from too many taxes, restrictions and regulations.
Then Apple should take a hard look a QT.
People that suggest to build plants in the US aren't doing their homework.
Made in USA doesn't mean the quality is better or worse, neither does it mean that Americans would be getting jobs because of it.
Some percentage, but not all!
Quality depends on the manufacturers controls.
Mercedes, Toyota etc. are all building quality products in the US.
There are not even enough workers with low assembly qualifications, so for a plant of that size the jobs would mostly go to immigrants, NOT Americans.
Then there is money a resource that is like a rare element gas. The slightest sign of trouble and it disappears and goes where there is no trouble.
Brazil will make no trouble, neither do other countries.
The government here is too fragmented in it's opinions to unite and pass laws that make production in the US worthwhile.
For that matter none of them have economic backgrounds and just preside over status quo, Republican or Liberal.
About 95% of all the tax money coming in is spent before it even hits and then some.
As the president's friend (an accountant) said in the movie DAVE:
If I would keep my books like they (the government) do , they'd throw me in jail.
It's an international world, intertwined by money.
So, enough with this buy American or MADE IN USA stuff. It's all about money and that will be made wherever it's FREE from too many taxes, restrictions and regulations.
Then Apple should take a hard look a QT.
Menge
Apr 2, 12:28 AM
One last April 1st jab?
kdarling
Nov 13, 07:04 AM
What happens to the Facebook app now? Do they get someone else in or do they just let it rot?
He stated that support for the Facebook app would be taken over by someone else.
He said he personally was frustrated and going back to web programming.
Let's see, before Apple, there was no useful mobile app market.
Anyone who's had smartphones knows about Handango.
Handango has been around for a decade, with tens of thousands of apps for all kinds of phones. Some carriers even included Handango's specific store app, which existed years before the iPhone came along.
He stated that support for the Facebook app would be taken over by someone else.
He said he personally was frustrated and going back to web programming.
Let's see, before Apple, there was no useful mobile app market.
Anyone who's had smartphones knows about Handango.
Handango has been around for a decade, with tens of thousands of apps for all kinds of phones. Some carriers even included Handango's specific store app, which existed years before the iPhone came along.
redsteven
Mar 28, 08:57 PM
Excellent! I'll plan on saving a few bucks then to upgrade.
Thanks for the info.
Yes, they're a reasonable price, but keep in mind it's not going to be anywhere near $30.
If it's inline with previous OS X updates (besides snow leopard, which was a very special case of mostly under-the-hood improvements with fewer improvements that the user would notice), the it will be probably be around $100.
Thanks for the info.
Yes, they're a reasonable price, but keep in mind it's not going to be anywhere near $30.
If it's inline with previous OS X updates (besides snow leopard, which was a very special case of mostly under-the-hood improvements with fewer improvements that the user would notice), the it will be probably be around $100.
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Mar 14, 07:11 PM
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deputy_doofy
Nov 8, 07:39 AM
How do they know these things? At any rate the stores are down. Exciting stuff but i bet this thread gets more negatives than positives.
Happy to be made to eat my words!!
You can thank places like yahoo...
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061108/sfw052.html?.v=82
Happy to be made to eat my words!!
You can thank places like yahoo...
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mrgreen4242
Aug 30, 08:50 AM
As I've heard from those who've actually used Vista, Aero is the only reason to install it (thus far at least). Home Basic does not include Aero.
Assuming my Windows-using companions are correct, Home Basic thusly has nothing to offer. Hence, it is crap.
Q.E.D.
-Clive
AH, see what you take for a reason not get it I take for just the very reason I want it... The ONLY thing I would Windows for are gaming and running one DB app that doesn't have an OSX version (yet - the next revision, which should be out before Vista, they claim will, woowoo).
So, for the most part I just want to boot into Windows to play a game or two. Which means that I want the leanest, least resource using Windows installation I can get. And the cheapest. As long as Vista Home Basic supports DX10 and all these "Vista exclusive" games that are being announced it will suffice for 75% of the Mac/Boot Camp crowd... and only cost $100. Probably snag it for $70 if you wait a bit and get an OEM copy from Newegg.
Vista+BootCamp = Wintendo.
Booya!
Assuming my Windows-using companions are correct, Home Basic thusly has nothing to offer. Hence, it is crap.
Q.E.D.
-Clive
AH, see what you take for a reason not get it I take for just the very reason I want it... The ONLY thing I would Windows for are gaming and running one DB app that doesn't have an OSX version (yet - the next revision, which should be out before Vista, they claim will, woowoo).
So, for the most part I just want to boot into Windows to play a game or two. Which means that I want the leanest, least resource using Windows installation I can get. And the cheapest. As long as Vista Home Basic supports DX10 and all these "Vista exclusive" games that are being announced it will suffice for 75% of the Mac/Boot Camp crowd... and only cost $100. Probably snag it for $70 if you wait a bit and get an OEM copy from Newegg.
Vista+BootCamp = Wintendo.
Booya!
GregA
Jul 23, 07:27 AM
this would be fantastic.. ebooks and i would also like to see pdf added to the list!! the current text feature is nice but adding pdf abilities would be better :)
And websites, RSS etc. We need a simple way of quickly grabbing a lot of webstuff to synchronise.
Then again - if you take the current iPod, make it full screen, replace the hard disk with 10GB flash ram & bluetooth/wireless (will that combo increase battery life?).... maybe we'll update on the go.
Please apple, something lighweight, long battery life, thin and portable, scratch-resistant, and super high res/high contrast screen (OLED/eInk?).
:)
edit: also magazine support for those macworlds I have in the Zinio reader format would be awesomeIf this happens, would it be as an extension of the existing iPod, or as a similar/related product? Can you imagine a light & thin iPod nano with an 8x6 inch eInk screen, for instance?
And websites, RSS etc. We need a simple way of quickly grabbing a lot of webstuff to synchronise.
Then again - if you take the current iPod, make it full screen, replace the hard disk with 10GB flash ram & bluetooth/wireless (will that combo increase battery life?).... maybe we'll update on the go.
Please apple, something lighweight, long battery life, thin and portable, scratch-resistant, and super high res/high contrast screen (OLED/eInk?).
:)
edit: also magazine support for those macworlds I have in the Zinio reader format would be awesomeIf this happens, would it be as an extension of the existing iPod, or as a similar/related product? Can you imagine a light & thin iPod nano with an 8x6 inch eInk screen, for instance?
jmpage2
Nov 12, 05:45 PM
By offering applications both ways you have an advantage. Apps that want to be listed on the App store need to pass all the usual tests and review process.
By offering applications via your own website you get a warning saying the app wasn't reviewed by app, use at your own risk blah blah blah.
Again, I think it's you who doesn't get Apple's logic here. When a 3rd party application crashes the iPhone, uses too much data, etc, it's Apple and the carrier who take the blame, not the idiot developer who developed crap-ware.
Apple would evidently rather spend less time hardening their phone and more time developing the next version of it. The app approval process lets them check things out with an app before it goes out to the greasy unwashed masses.
If that doesn't float your boat there are plenty of alternatives.
1. Get a different device that lets you install whatever you want.
2. Jailbreak your iPhone, just don't call Apple when you flock it up.
The point made about Facebook being a walled garden is a valid one. Your phone is rapidly on the way to being your passport for functioning in society. It will soon be the key fob to start your car, act as a credit card, etc. Do you really want any software out there running on a device that has this much involvement in your life?
By offering applications via your own website you get a warning saying the app wasn't reviewed by app, use at your own risk blah blah blah.
Again, I think it's you who doesn't get Apple's logic here. When a 3rd party application crashes the iPhone, uses too much data, etc, it's Apple and the carrier who take the blame, not the idiot developer who developed crap-ware.
Apple would evidently rather spend less time hardening their phone and more time developing the next version of it. The app approval process lets them check things out with an app before it goes out to the greasy unwashed masses.
If that doesn't float your boat there are plenty of alternatives.
1. Get a different device that lets you install whatever you want.
2. Jailbreak your iPhone, just don't call Apple when you flock it up.
The point made about Facebook being a walled garden is a valid one. Your phone is rapidly on the way to being your passport for functioning in society. It will soon be the key fob to start your car, act as a credit card, etc. Do you really want any software out there running on a device that has this much involvement in your life?
tekmoe
Sep 4, 09:09 AM
When new products are released, the existing promotional deals don't always apply to them.
not always but usually...
ex: mac pro
not always but usually...
ex: mac pro
Charlie Sheen
Mar 25, 03:11 PM
Can anyone who has done the update confirm whether or not PING is ON by default or not?
if you have turned it off in the setting its off. otherwise its on by default
if you have turned it off in the setting its off. otherwise its on by default
Sharewaredemon
Mar 22, 02:21 PM
G5 PowerBook. Wife said no......
Dave01568
Nov 3, 08:39 AM
Apple,you greedy apple give us flash even if you allow a way to click and hold that Lego piece to save a URL fir later viewing in a app specific flash player
ipodtoucher
Mar 8, 08:36 AM
Here's number 3 of the series, it's an on-going series that I hope to continue for a while.
Stephen
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Stephen
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ddrueckhammer
Sep 12, 04:21 PM
Strangely, the iTunes update was the best thing to come out of the announcements for me today.
Updated regular iPods- Meh
Updated iPod Nanos-Why didn't they just come out with a flash based Mini last year?
Updated Shuffle-New form factor..nothing really new though...
Selling Movies-BLAH...Too expensive and no rental option...who cares
iTV-Somewhat interesting but without cheaper movies/rentals I'm not sure I would use it. I don't know that I want to rip all of my DVDs to take advantage of it.
iTunes Update!!!-Woohoo! Many of the complaints of users are addressed and several slick new features! Probably the best iTunes update in two years IMO!!
Updated regular iPods- Meh
Updated iPod Nanos-Why didn't they just come out with a flash based Mini last year?
Updated Shuffle-New form factor..nothing really new though...
Selling Movies-BLAH...Too expensive and no rental option...who cares
iTV-Somewhat interesting but without cheaper movies/rentals I'm not sure I would use it. I don't know that I want to rip all of my DVDs to take advantage of it.
iTunes Update!!!-Woohoo! Many of the complaints of users are addressed and several slick new features! Probably the best iTunes update in two years IMO!!
Tazjin
Mar 22, 06:00 PM
The next time she sends him out to buy pads, I'll bet she's more specific...
Epic :D
Anyways, I'm glad to be gay - some heterosexual couples I know seem to be living in a d/s relationship, not quite the kind of thing I'm interested in.
Oh, and of course it's a nice move by Apple :P
Epic :D
Anyways, I'm glad to be gay - some heterosexual couples I know seem to be living in a d/s relationship, not quite the kind of thing I'm interested in.
Oh, and of course it's a nice move by Apple :P
mrplow
Aug 3, 07:24 AM
I have to agree with the last post as that's immediately what I thought last night- different devices have different drivers, he supposedly exploited a bug in the drivers for the external wifi card plugged into the macbook- first of all, who wrote those drivers? second of all, this fails to mention *ever* that apple's airport extreme card/drivers has such a bug to be dealt with-- merely that a mac using such an external card is vulnerable.
and ultimately, he never does load up the Sharing preferences to prove that shell/afs/smb/etc aren't running.
and ultimately, he never does load up the Sharing preferences to prove that shell/afs/smb/etc aren't running.
cooknwitha
Sep 12, 12:53 PM
How long does it usually take for new releases to be available? So it's been announced it will be available "today". So.... what's the average? Hours? Minutes?
Yes, I'm an impatient child. :D
Yes, I'm an impatient child. :D
Full of Win
Mar 28, 11:52 AM
Man, Apple keeps getting lower and lower. First Walmart, now this?
...and they showed one of the 'good' retailers, Costco, the door.
couldn't get one today at the apple store in Atlanta, best buy, or target. would love to be able to pick one up already.
Which Apple Store did you try, there is more than one in ATL.
...and they showed one of the 'good' retailers, Costco, the door.
couldn't get one today at the apple store in Atlanta, best buy, or target. would love to be able to pick one up already.
Which Apple Store did you try, there is more than one in ATL.
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